Never Too Far Gone

This is a podast about how to change the impossible. Heather Cetrangolo is the creator of Systemic Renewal, a methodology for building a new paradigm within a system. Never Too Far Gone is her weekly podcast about the practice of Systemic Renewal and the academic research that informs it. Heather has spent twenty years learning how to identify where a problem started in a system’s story, and developing roadmaps into new paradigms. She has worked in legal practice, community development, education at primary, secondary and tertiary level, and as an Anglican priest. This podcast is designed to provide a weekly guided reflection for leaders of change to be encouraged and informed in their practice. http://heathercetrangolo.com

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Episodes

Friday Mar 15, 2024

This week's podcast in the Following Favour series is with Elisha O'Dowd, a Renewalist, a Nurse and Effectiveness and Outcomes Manager at CLEO, an organisation designing digital care pathways and using the latest technology and research to improve patient outcomes. Elisha shares her journey into nursing, management in emergency departments and now into leading systemic change within health care. Elisha's story is a powerful reminder of the need to find favour with ourselves first, to know that just as our community's sense of purpose CAN shift, so can our own, and so can the system's belief in its own capacity. 

Thursday Mar 07, 2024

This week's podcast in the Following Favour series is with Brooklyn White, a Renewalist, Social Worker and Founder of Renewing Hope Agency, Canada. Brooklyn shares her story of being drawn to macro-level change, why it can be lonely being that person in the system, and the secret she discovered that frustration and disappointment for Renewalists, comes from "actually loving the system." We suggest three reflection questions to take into your week after listening to this podcast:
1. Are you drawn to the macro? If so, how have this been received in your work context?
2. Do you experience situational ethics in the leadership around you? If so, what steadfastness is needed and how could you bring it?
3. Do you really love the system?

Group Work That Doesn't Suck

Thursday Feb 29, 2024

Thursday Feb 29, 2024

This is the third of a six-part series about a practice in Systemic Renewal called 'Following Favour.' An often neglected aspect of systemic change is the 'who' question. How do you get the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus? In this episode, Heather draws from Jim Collin's research to unpack how to gather the right people in the right way to make group work effective (and fun). She describes what research reveals are key strategies for good group work: being selective and having a leader, but one who is led by the group. 

We Don't Need Another Hero

Thursday Feb 22, 2024

Thursday Feb 22, 2024

This is the second of a six-part series about a practice in Systemic Renewal called 'Following Favour.' An often neglected aspect of systemic change is the 'who' question. How do you get the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus? In this episode, Heather draws from Jim Collin's research to unpack why starting small and slow wins the day. She describes what research reveals are key strategies for attracting the right people, repelling the wrong people and developing a succession plan. 

Who Are Your People?

Friday Feb 16, 2024

Friday Feb 16, 2024

This is the first of a six-part series about a practice in Systemic Renewal called 'Following Favour.' An often neglected aspect of systemic change is the 'who' question. How do you get the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus? Heather draws from Jim Collin's research which shows that 'who' questions come before 'what' questions, and shares from her own experience how to tell who your people are. 

The Method (Part 2)

Wednesday Feb 07, 2024

Wednesday Feb 07, 2024

Heather shares the second of the Four Methods that encompass Systemic Renewal as a practice. This episode outlines why changing mindsets is fundamental to effecting lasting systemic change and why we need training in the science of how to do this. We currently live in a world that tries to change mindsets by changing personnel, policy and conversations. These are secondary outcomes of deeper changes that can't happen working purely from these levels. This episode dives into examples from Heather's experience of how to craft and peform renewed narratives within a system.

The Method (Part 1)

Thursday Jan 25, 2024

Thursday Jan 25, 2024

Heather shares the first two of the Four Methods that encompass Systemic Renewal as a practice. This episode outlines why changing mindsets is fundamental to effecting lasting systemic change and why we need training in the science of how to do this. We currently live in a world that tries to change mindsets by changing personnel, policy and conversations. These are secondary outcomes of deeper changes that can't happen working purely from these levels. 

Wednesday Dec 20, 2023

Heather the Four Modes of Leadership that encompass Systemic Renewal. She terms these the Mountain, the Table, the Green Room and the Stage. She shares how effective change leaders move in and out of these modes in balanced and intentional ways, and once they get this right, specific methods for effecting change can be released effectively. 

Thursday Dec 07, 2023

Heather answers a question about how to stay burning when serious setbacks and discouragements happen. This episode offers three tips and a guided reflection about how to metabolise experiences of feeling comprised or betrayed. First, acknowledge what was plain unfair. Second, assign oneself a grieving period. Third, repurpose disappointment so that it becomes a resource in the rebuilding process. 

Software Change Isn’t Soft

Thursday Nov 30, 2023

Thursday Nov 30, 2023

Heather introduces Systemic Renewal, a methodology for changing the software and hardware of systems. She explains that changing software isn't soft, but practical, measurable, brave and sophisticated work. Heather introduces three reasons why changing mindsets can feel lightweight or fluffy, and four methods that make it not so. 

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