Never Too Far Gone

This is a podast about how to change the impossible. Heather Cetrangolo is the creator of Systemic Renewal, a methodology for building a new paradigm within a system. Never Too Far Gone is her weekly podcast about the practice of Systemic Renewal and the academic research that informs it. Heather has spent twenty years learning how to identify where a problem started in a system’s story, and developing roadmaps into new paradigms. She has worked in legal practice, community development, education at primary, secondary and tertiary level, and as an Anglican priest. This podcast is designed to provide a weekly guided reflection for leaders of change to be encouraged and informed in their practice. http://heathercetrangolo.com

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Episodes

2 days ago

This is a time capsule, where Heather shares her 'vision of victory' for Systemic Renewal, as it came to her on an ordinary day, in her study.

2 days ago

This is the seventh of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. This episode is with regular guest, Brooklyn White, Founder of Renewing Hope Agency, Canada. Heather and Brooklyn explore the art of describing a clear ‘vision of victory’ when leading a new beginning. This episode provides a guided reflection on three aspects to successfully stepping into a new beginning, inspired by William Bridges. These are:
 
Just do it.
Let it be incremental.
Picture it.

2 days ago

This is the seventh of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. This episode is with regular guest, Brooklyn White, Founder of Renewing Hope Agency, Canada. Heather and Brooklyn explore the balance between being ambitious for change without being naive about the pace. This episode provides a guided reflection on three aspects to successfully stepping into a new beginning, inspired by William Bridges. These are:
 
Just do it.
Let it be incremental.
Picture it.

Thursday May 02, 2024

This is the sixth of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. Based on William Bridges' groundbreaking work in Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes, this series unpacks the practical implications of his three-part Transition Model. This episode provides strategies for knowing when our long-term relationships are in a transition period and how to move through it well. Why? Because the bottom line is, leaders of large scale social change will unavoidably go through transitions in their core relationships.  

Sunday Apr 28, 2024

This is the fifth of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. This episode is with special guest, Ignacio Packer, Executive Director of Initiatives of Change, Caux Foundation. The conversation traverses three transitions occurring for global leadership today. First, a transition away from cynical or naively optimisitic leadership, towards a grounded, proactive choice to be hopeful. Secondly, a transition away from directive management styles to choosing vulnerability. Thirdly, a transition away from blind acceptance of white, male privilege, towards conscious decisions to choose diversity in leadership representation. 

Thursday Apr 18, 2024

This is the fourth of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. Based on William Bridges' groundbreaking work in Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes, this series unpacks the practical implications of his three-part Transition Model. This episode provides practical exercises for identifying the life stage of an organisation or sector, and the developmental needs to be met for healthy transition.  

Monday Apr 15, 2024

This is the third of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. This week features again special guest, Shivani Gopal, passionate feminist and the Founder and CEO of Elladex. Heather connects the themes in Shivani's practical experience of supporting women to transition into senior leadership with William Bridge's theories about how to transition well at work. The episode highlights stages of transition that we face as individuals in our career journey, as well as organisationally, and how at each juncture there is a process of letting go of old neworks, old identities and old self-talk. 

Rebirth with Shivani Gopal

Thursday Apr 04, 2024

Thursday Apr 04, 2024

This is the second of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. This week is with special guest Shivani Gopal, passionate feminist and the Founder and CEO of Elladex. Get ready for an intimate journey with Shivani into her experience of rebirth. She and Heather unearth the heart-experience of braving an end to destructive attachments and relationships, grieving the associated loss, and achieving rebirth. Shivani is proud to be proud of her achievements and challenges the narrative that it's 'prideful' for women to be ambitious or want more for themselves. This week explores the personal transition that gifted the world with Elladex. Next week, we will hear about the global impact Elladex are having on assisting women to transition into executive-level leadership. 
 
Here are some reflection questions you might like to take into your week after listening to this podcast:
1. How often do you tell yourself you are proud of yourself? How do you feel about the word 'pride'?
2. Is there someone in your life, or a community in your sphere of influence, who needs permission to start over, or to be reminded that they are enough?
3. What parts of you are 'traditional' and what parts are 'progressive'? How do these interplay? How does this question apply to the system you are in?

Saturday Mar 30, 2024

This is the first of an eight-part series called Transition Plans: How to Transition Well. Change is something that happens as an external event or situation, whereas 'transition' is an inner, psychological process that people go through as they internalise and come to terms with change. Based on William Bridges' groundbreaking work in Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes, this series unpacks the practical implications of his three-part Transition Model. It explores how to help a system end well, move into a neutral zone and then embrace a new beginning. This is a must-listen for anyone leading sector-wide or organisational transition. 

Good Apples and Bad Apples

Saturday Mar 23, 2024

Saturday Mar 23, 2024

This is the final of a six-part series about the practice in Systemic Renewal called 'Following Favour.' An often neglected aspect of systemic change is the 'who' question. How do you get the right people on the bus and the wrong people off the bus? In this final episode, Heather ties the topic together and draws from Jim Collins' research, highlighting how to avoid biting into a poisoned apple. She draws out three points: bad apples don't turn into good apples, bad apples aren't all bad, and bad apples are usually lazy, jealous or cheap. 

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